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#1 ahistick

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Posted 20 October 2011 - 02:35 PM

Kil and those more experience...

I wanted to ask for thoughts and opinions on how to spool up a Stella 20K. I'm going on a 12 day long range trip out of San Diego in December. It'll be a trip down the Baja Coast to target 100-200lb yellowfin tuna.

This is the first trip down to the area in 13 years. I've got the conventional gear covered, but wanted to challenge myself and catch tuna on a spinner...

How would you all rig up the Stella on a popping rod? I know someone that loaded a 20K spool with over 550 yards of 60lb hollow JB and I can splice 100lb hollow on top for either loop-to-loop or a direct insert of 100lb fluoro/mono. Or it can be loaded up with a tad bit less of straight 100lb hollow JB...

Since we're be fishing open water, capacity is needed...

Thank you all for any shared info/thoughts/opinions...

#2 Kilsong

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Posted 20 October 2011 - 07:21 PM

That is a good question for anyone who wants to use spinning gears for 100 lb - 200 lbs yft on the 10 plus days long range boats out of San Diego.

60 lb braid

When we had bluefin tuna under 200 lb, some including myself used 60 lb Jerry Brown for more line capacity as the breaking point of JB 60 lbs is about 90 lb.
However, when we encountered bluefin over 200 lb, most switched to 80 lb to 100 lb.
You definitely get more line capacity when you use 60 lb Jerry Brown Hollow while still using 25 - 30 lbs drag.
While you can give upto 30 lb drag with 60 lb JB Hollow, there are a few issues.
First, the thinner 60 lb line doesn't have margin of error. If you step up the drag past 30 lb, it is likely the line get broken.
Second, I experienced line digging problem with 60 lbs on heavy drag. Line digging problem exist even on 80 - 100 lb too, but I lost a few big fishes using 60 lb thin lines on heavy drag much more than using 80 - 100 lb braid.

Third, the thin 60 lb line shows lesser abrasion resistance than 80 lb or 100 lb.
When fishing on a big party boat, the line can touch any part of a boat or other lines while fighting and thinner line can be a disadvantage.

80 lb braid

I like to use 80 lb Jerry Brown Hollow if the line capacity is not an issue.
80 lb JB breaks at about 150 lb and it is actually thicker than 100 lb JB Hollow.
My friend caught and released 600 lb giant using JM PE8 filled with 80 lb JB Hollow within one hour off NJ this month. It seems he used over 40 lb drag for the whole fight.
80 lbs JB gives room for the margin of error than 60 lb JB as well as more abrasion resistance. I spooled 370 yards of JB 100 lb hollow on Stella 20000SW. So you can get about 340 yards of 80 lb JB hollow on Stella 20000SW.
I think you can catch most yft in 100 -200 lb range with 340 - 350 yards on 30 plus lb drag without getting spooled.
If you are concerned about line capacity by using 80 lbs, other option is to use custom bigger spool like Yumeya, Studio Ocean Mark or JM Monster spool for 20000SW.
You should get 400 - 420 yards of 80 lbs braid (PE8).

I plan to use two different spinning setups for our 9/15 days charter on the Excel in Jan/Feb 2013.
I am going to use a lighter setup using 60 lb braid when majority tuna we encounter are under 120 - 140 lb while I use 80 lb setup when we encounter bigger than 150 lb yft[/sub].

#3 ahistick

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Posted 25 October 2011 - 09:00 PM

Thank you Kil! Great insight!

#4 BIGWAVEDAVE

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 01:34 AM

That is a good question for anyone who wants to use spinning gears for 100 lb - 200 lbs yft on the 10 plus days long range boats out of San Diego.

60 lb braid

When we had bluefin tuna under 200 lb, some including myself used 60 lb Jerry Brown for more line capacity as the breaking point of JB 60 lbs is about 90 lb.
However, when we encountered bluefin over 200 lb, most switched to 80 lb to 100 lb.
You definitely get more line capacity when you use 60 lb Jerry Brown Hollow while still using 25 - 30 lbs drag.
While you can give upto 30 lb drag with 60 lb JB Hollow, there are a few issues.
First, the thinner 60 lb line doesn't have margin of error. If you step up the drag past 30 lb, it is likely the line get broken.
Second, I experienced line digging problem with 60 lbs on heavy drag. Line digging problem exist even on 80 - 100 lb too, but I lost a few big fishes using 60 lb thin lines on heavy drag much more than using 80 - 100 lb braid.

Third, the thin 60 lb line shows lesser abrasion resistance than 80 lb or 100 lb.
When fishing on a big party boat, the line can touch any part of a boat or other lines while fighting and thinner line can be a disadvantage.

80 lb braid

I like to use 80 lb Jerry Brown Hollow if the line capacity is not an issue.
80 lb JB breaks at about 150 lb and it is actually thicker than 100 lb JB Hollow.
My friend caught and released 600 lb giant using JM PE8 filled with 80 lb JB Hollow within one hour off NJ this month. It seems he used over 40 lb drag for the whole fight.
80 lbs JB gives room for the margin of error than 60 lb JB as well as more abrasion resistance. I spooled 370 yards of JB 100 lb hollow on Stella 20000SW. So you can get about 340 yards of 80 lb JB hollow on Stella 20000SW.
I think you can catch most yft in 100 -200 lb range with 340 - 350 yards on 30 plus lb drag without getting spooled.
If you are concerned about line capacity by using 80 lbs, other option is to use custom bigger spool like Yumeya, Studio Ocean Mark or JM Monster spool for 20000SW.
You should get 400 - 420 yards of 80 lbs braid (PE8).

I plan to use two different spinning setups for our 9/15 days charter on the Excel in Jan/Feb 2013.
I am going to use a lighter setup using 60 lb braid when majority tuna we encounter are under 120 - 140 lb while I use 80 lb setup when we encounter bigger than 150 lb yft[/sub].



Kil,Which spinning rods do you feel comfortable using with 30# of drag?

Edited by BIGWAVEDAVE, 15 January 2013 - 01:34 AM.


#5 Inspiro

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 12:43 PM

60 lb braid

When we had bluefin tuna under 200 lb, some including myself used 60 lb Jerry Brown for more line capacity as the breaking point of JB 60 lbs is about 90 lb.
However, when we encountered bluefin over 200 lb, most switched to 80 lb to 100 lb.
You definitely get more line capacity when you use 60 lb Jerry Brown Hollow while still using 25 - 30 lbs drag.
While you can give upto 30 lb drag with 60 lb JB Hollow, there are a few issues.
First, the thinner 60 lb line doesn't have margin of error. If you step up the drag past 30 lb, it is likely the line get broken.
Second, I experienced line digging problem with 60 lbs on heavy drag. Line digging problem exist even on 80 - 100 lb too, but I lost a few big fishes using 60 lb thin lines on heavy drag much more than using 80 - 100 lb braid.

Third, the thin 60 lb line shows lesser abrasion resistance than 80 lb or 100 lb.
When fishing on a big party boat, the line can touch any part of a boat or other lines while fighting and thinner line can be a disadvantage.

80 lb braid

I like to use 80 lb Jerry Brown Hollow if the line capacity is not an issue.
80 lb JB breaks at about 150 lb and it is actually thicker than 100 lb JB Hollow.
My friend caught and released 600 lb giant using JM PE8 filled with 80 lb JB Hollow within one hour off NJ this month. It seems he used over 40 lb drag for the whole fight.
80 lbs JB gives room for the margin of error than 60 lb JB as well as more abrasion resistance. I spooled 370 yards of JB 100 lb hollow on Stella 20000SW. So you can get about 340 yards of 80 lb JB hollow on Stella 20000SW.
I think you can catch most yft in 100 -200 lb range with 340 - 350 yards on 30 plus lb drag without getting spooled.
If you are concerned about line capacity by using 80 lbs, other option is to use custom bigger spool like Yumeya, Studio Ocean Mark or JM Monster spool for 20000SW.
You should get 400 - 420 yards of 80 lbs braid (PE8).

I plan to use two different spinning setups for our 9/15 days charter on the Excel in Jan/Feb 2013.
I am going to use a lighter setup using 60 lb braid when majority tuna we encounter are under 120 - 140 lb while I use 80 lb setup when we encounter bigger than 150 lb yft[/sub].


Dear Kil
Why the shift from the 60 to 80 directly, like you mentioned 100lb JB Hollow is thinner and has lower lb rating than the 80(as if lb rating is substituted)
So based on that I think if I wanna upgrade from the 60 I'll use the 100, then if I want to upgrade from the 100, I'll use the 80, is that right?

Inspiro

#6 Kilsong

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 01:49 PM

Dear Kil
Why the shift from the 60 to 80 directly, like you mentioned 100lb JB Hollow is thinner and has lower lb rating than the 80(as if lb rating is substituted)
So based on that I think if I wanna upgrade from the 60 I'll use the 100, then if I want to upgrade from the 100, I'll use the 80, is that right?

Inspiro

In theory, you are right. But i rarely use 100# Jerry Brown for no apparent reason.:)

#7 Dimitri

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 12:14 PM

FYI, just purchased same reel, for same purpose and spooled it JB80.

#8 DAVID

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 12:59 PM

hello everybody

I joined to this excellent forum a few minutes ago and I only want to learn all I can from all experienced fishermans that share opinions on this site

I live in Panama city , central america and I love to fishing, to be specific : jigging !

Right now I have some questions about jerry brown hollow core braided lines:

why some people say that hollow core linesare not suitable for deep jigging ?

are they good to be used on spinning reels ?

are they suitables for chunking and live baiting (some says that hollow core lines absorbs water and are dragged by current during live or dead baiting )

and finally , what about hollow lines for deep drop fishing ?

Sorry for a lot of questions but I would like to have the neutral opinion of the experienced people that has used these lines due to I want to spool some stella 20K spools and torsa 40 with braided line.

Best regards,

David




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